Final Surge Podcast Episode 70: Jonathan Marcus

Welcome to Episode 70 of the Final Surge Podcast, our first release of 2018. Today we welcome back coach Jonathan Marcus of High Performance West who is also the co-host of the On Coaching Podcast. In this episode, we find out what Jonathan is up to since our first visit over a year ago and take some questions our listeners sent in. Remember if you like the podcast please share it with a friend or on Facebook or FinalSurge where we can be found @FinalSurge.

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What is going on with High Performance West?

Goal January 5th Full Launch
Workout of the day
Story/thought of the day
Will continue doing daily post with workout and story of the day
Have over 5,000 workouts written down to pick from

You recently had a workout from Nick Symmonds. Jerry and Alberto Salazar are two of greatest coaches around and you have stated they are influences on you. They are big believers in lots of high-end aerobic development, but Nick’s workout was anything but. Talk a little his workout and what you took from it?

Very fast, 400m and faster pace
Have to be cautious and keep people healthy too
Learn from your mentors, but find your own flavor and thoughts

What advice do you have for coaches who read your site and the workouts of the day and how they should employ them?

Designed to make you think
Give you the why and how they did it
Context of how it fit in
Purpose is to get you thinking and growing

What is your other project Coaching With Craft?

Goal is short 5-minute videos
Contribute to the community of coaches

We wanted to open it up to some of our listeners and we gathered questions from them so let’s get into them.

I have heard you talk about doing workouts in a way so that after the hard effort you clear lactate with more aerobic running. I have also heard you say that most of what we know about lactate acid is a myth from the 80’s. What do we know and what should we keep in mind? I do mostly 5k-10k road races with 1 track workout a week.

Common interpretation lactate acid is a wall/barrier
Lactate is a fuel source
We get to a tipping point where we cannot keep up and acidosis happens
Acidosis turns the muscles off
Lactate Flush: Since we can buffer, if we give it enough of a buffer then can turn it around to be fuel
400s at 2k pace with 60 seconds rest. At a point, you will be cooked, but what you can do is flushes at 1/2 marathon to marathon pace for 200m, then easy 200, after about 3-4 of them lactate will reset to a point where using lactate as fuel.

Father of a runner who took over the school’s indoor track distance team after they were left coachless had a few questions:

What should the warmups-drills-exercises look like?

Keep it fun
Jay Johnson Lunge Matrix videos
Good team bonding time
Good to have drill set A/B
Observe and watch

You mentioned minimum effective dose often, when do you know when that has been reached?

Make sure there is enough left they can do what they need to do tomorrow
Watch over time what they can handle

I am a 33-year-old runner who has been running for 3 years. I started for weight loss and fell in love with the sport. I just broke 20 minutes in the 5k which has been a goal for a year. You talk about looking at the canvass and seeing what is missing. That is what I should be working on. How do you know what that thing is?

You don’t know what you don’t know
What problems do you need to find a solution to
The problems that arise formulate the questions

I have been coaching xc/indoor/outdoor distance for 4 years. I have done a good job developing 1&2 mile runners on the track, but very little luck with developing 800 runners. I don’t have any of those “jump out of the gym” athletes that you talk about. What types of workouts can I add and when should I add them in?

I had the same problem until a few weeks ago
Added speed work starting day 1
Prperation work/ lifting/ gym work
Quick stairs/ Power stairs
Plyos

In one of your podcast, you said Alan Webb did not go to altitude but was getting similar results from his lifting. Can you explain this?

His cardio was great
Hormonal release from lifting similar to performance drugs

One thing you talk about a lot is, after a workout or rep, you ask your runner to walk you through it. It is easy to talk about what happens on a bad rep, but what about ones that are “fine”? Do you dig deeper or take fine as an answer?

Depends on the session
All about the psychology of what is going on
Are they engaged or on auto-pilot

Recently you have talked about how you are spending more time on form and mechanics. Can you talk to us about what you have learned, what you focus on and where should we be going to help educate ourselves on this?